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Daide Vondrichnov
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
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Posted - 2017.02.24 21:05:45 -
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Na'av wrote:Calling bullshit on the people that say they bring HICs to their kite fleet comps
So keep calling it bullshit, it won't make it less true.
Na'av wrote:ecause HICs are slow compared to their t1 variants
Roamers are undocking with oracles / BNIs / HFIs / Faction battleships everydays and you believe we can't make up a nano HIC fit ? Do you play this game ?
Na'av wrote:and slowing down targets that are chasing you is not the point of a kite fleet
What ? Have you ever kited ? Screening everything mwd fitted in a 39,4km radius around your fleet is Golden. |
Daide Vondrichnov
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
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Posted - 2017.02.24 21:18:11 -
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Solaris Vex wrote:
Hmm a phobos with no rep and minimal buffer. Any ship with a rep and decent damage at 37km would outlast this quite easily. A Gila would be cheaper and stronger.
Comparing a gila to a phobos :ok_hand:
Will you realise at some point how dumb and ignorant you are about this game ? |
Daide Vondrichnov
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
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Posted - 2017.02.24 22:53:26 -
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Trajan Unknown wrote:I have a pretty high opinion about you guys and your experience when it comes for small warfare stuff
first thing first i don't speak speak as a We Form V0LTA member, just as a roamer (i'm not even in Thera ))) )
Trajan Unknown wrote:You can screen your fleet yes, against one ship or how many HICs do you guys bring? Maybe two if you fit 2 focus points. For the sake of it, you can even fit more but from the fits posted it-¦s pretty much just one point. So yeah, you can screen against on single ship. What-¦s the benefit of that please? You can simply shoot stuff to bits when they come close, guessing you engage standing fleets 7/10 times.
Screening is needed when your fleet pull range, you don't need to hold the same inty for 60 sec, your goal is to cycle once to reduce as much as possible the number on inties / small ships / cruisers that can get in the "danger zone". So yeah you tap your scrambl at anything burning at you, cutting their MWD is enought for blapping them on the way;
Trajan Unknown wrote:
and since you won-¦t engage s similar skilled/equipped gang outside of arranged fights/tournaments there is no problem*
HIC is another tool to give us possibilites to counter another nano gang.
[quote=Trajan Unknown
can project further than 37.5km so the HIC won-¦t change ****.
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Do you realize that anyone who were seriously roaming stopped to play anything that couldn't apply DPS above 40km ? Because of the very same HIC change ?
And slowly but surely anyone adapted the same way ? Like... You |
Daide Vondrichnov
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
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Posted - 2017.02.24 23:27:39 -
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clipper shore wrote:
look at the kill boards moron larken how many hic' kills are there on nano ship not many
now compare how mant kills small gang nano roamers get ...millions
Let's compare 4 ships to hundreads. weeeeeeh |
Daide Vondrichnov
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Posted - 2017.02.25 08:13:21 -
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Kagi Anzomi wrote:
That's kind of a moot point though since we've already established that HICs are also slower than the kitey ships they're used against
If only HICs could warp to pings... Oh wait.
Kagi Anzomi wrote:
hate kiting, but I also have a 100MN Legion that can go 2300m/s cold or 3400m/s heated and can heat for quite a long time
So you hate kiting but you bought a kiting ship... what ? |
Daide Vondrichnov
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Posted - 2017.02.26 15:58:58 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:The kiting play style usually has the freedom to pick the fights it wants. That's why people fly it. If a gang comes to visit, we form up a response and see what we get. If we have the composition to beat them, they can typically run away, unless we have the numbers to put a HIC + webs on their possible exit gates. For example, one group came for a roam yesterday with a small Gila gang. A couple of us responded with a couple of small tackle ships and my Onyx. We actually had fewer folks immediately available than they did, but the threat to their ability to run away made them leave. As soon as the Onyx came on d-scan, they ran away, literally crying in local "HIC = no fun." If I had brought a Lachesis, they wouldn't have seen it coming, but then they would have tried to run once they saw it on grid. Or, as soon as they saw a Scimitar on D-Scan. It's very hard to make people fight in this game.
To their defense, the carrier menace that is implicitly linked to HICs is kinda scary yeah. |
Daide Vondrichnov
SnaiLs aNd FroGs
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Posted - 2017.02.26 16:17:41 -
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Trajan Unknown wrote:
Time to focus on BLOPs I guess and wait for a time where less people cry about too many things. :)
Buy a rorqual )) |
Daide Vondrichnov
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Posted - 2017.02.26 17:55:38 -
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Trajan Unknown wrote:Daide Vondrichnov wrote:Trajan Unknown wrote:
Time to focus on BLOPs I guess and wait for a time where less people cry about too many things. :)
Buy a rorqual )) Nah, I don-¦t need a Rorq to drop on ****. It would also mean I have to train into it on at least one alt and no thanks. :D
It's a bit off topic, but you've to admit that rorquals are better than BO at everything, insured they just cost a bit more than a BO hull. |
Daide Vondrichnov
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Posted - 2017.02.26 18:37:03 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:
Please show me where competent kiting gangs are regularly getting destroyed by just HIC's. They are not. I assure you that Exodus and The Culture don't die to just HIC's. It's just one group of risk averse people (Kiting Roamers) complaining about another group of risk averse people (Home Defense fleets). No one in Eve wants to lose ships. That's why longer scram ranges are good. They make it harder to run away from a fight.
Tbf; the HIC won't be the most efficient when it comes to burning at a target, people will just pull range as you are approaching.
However the role where it really does shine is when you start pinging on a roaming fleet, you'll just shatter their pack everytimes, and thanks to your tank you'll be able to keep the ships scrambled while waiting for your fleet to back you up, something that arazu / lachesis are less likely to do due to the lower tank and increased price due to Scrambl / disruptors price.
Luckly most of the HICs don't think about it, as a roamer, there is nothing more scarying than a HIC knowing his ****. |
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